Kathy Dopp

2008-11-06 18:23:39 UTC

FYI,

Defendants in the MN Case (who are promoting IRV and STV methods) have

just released new affidavits to the court that discuss Arrow's theorem

as supporting the case for IRV/STV and dismissing the importance of

IRV's nonmonotonicity.

I posted three of these most recent affidavits of the defendants of

Instant Runoff Voting and STV here:

http://electionmathematics.org/em-IRV/DefendantsDocs/

The first two docs listed are by Fair Vote's new expert witness.

The third doc is by the Minneapolis, MN City attorney.

The defendants characterize Arrow's theorem as proving that "there

exists no unequivocally satisfactory, or normatively appealing, voting

rule." and claim the "possibility of nonmonotonic results plagues ALL

potential democratic voting systems with 3 or more candidates unless a

dictatorial voting rule is adopted."

I would appreciate it if any of you have time to read some of the

above three docs, particularly the third document by the attorney, and

give me your responses.

FYI, the plaintiff's characterizes Arrow's theorem on p. 3 of this doc:

http://electionmathematics.org/em-IRV/DefendantsDocs/11SuplementaryReplyMemoinSupportofMotionforSummaryJudgment.pdf

Thank you.

Kathy

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Kathy Dopp

The material expressed herein is the informed product of the author's

fact-finding and investigative efforts. Dopp is a Mathematician,

Expert in election audit mathematics and procedures; in exit poll

discrepancy analysis; and can be reached at

P.O. Box 680192

Park City, UT 84068

phone 435-658-4657

http://utahcountvotes.org

http://electionmathematics.org

http://electionarchive.org

http://kathydopp.com/serendipity/

How to Audit Election Outcome Accuracy

http://electionarchive.org/ucvAnalysis/US/paper-audits/VoteCountAuditBillRequest.pdf

History of Confidence Election Auditing Development & Overview of

Election Auditing Fundamentals

http://electionarchive.org/ucvAnalysis/US/paper-audits/History-of-Election-Auditing-Development.pdf

Voters Have Reason to Worry

http://utahcountvotes.org/UT/UtahCountVotes-ThadHall-Response.pdf

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Defendants in the MN Case (who are promoting IRV and STV methods) have

just released new affidavits to the court that discuss Arrow's theorem

as supporting the case for IRV/STV and dismissing the importance of

IRV's nonmonotonicity.

I posted three of these most recent affidavits of the defendants of

Instant Runoff Voting and STV here:

http://electionmathematics.org/em-IRV/DefendantsDocs/

The first two docs listed are by Fair Vote's new expert witness.

The third doc is by the Minneapolis, MN City attorney.

The defendants characterize Arrow's theorem as proving that "there

exists no unequivocally satisfactory, or normatively appealing, voting

rule." and claim the "possibility of nonmonotonic results plagues ALL

potential democratic voting systems with 3 or more candidates unless a

dictatorial voting rule is adopted."

I would appreciate it if any of you have time to read some of the

above three docs, particularly the third document by the attorney, and

give me your responses.

FYI, the plaintiff's characterizes Arrow's theorem on p. 3 of this doc:

http://electionmathematics.org/em-IRV/DefendantsDocs/11SuplementaryReplyMemoinSupportofMotionforSummaryJudgment.pdf

Thank you.

Kathy

--

Kathy Dopp

The material expressed herein is the informed product of the author's

fact-finding and investigative efforts. Dopp is a Mathematician,

Expert in election audit mathematics and procedures; in exit poll

discrepancy analysis; and can be reached at

P.O. Box 680192

Park City, UT 84068

phone 435-658-4657

http://utahcountvotes.org

http://electionmathematics.org

http://electionarchive.org

http://kathydopp.com/serendipity/

How to Audit Election Outcome Accuracy

http://electionarchive.org/ucvAnalysis/US/paper-audits/VoteCountAuditBillRequest.pdf

History of Confidence Election Auditing Development & Overview of

Election Auditing Fundamentals

http://electionarchive.org/ucvAnalysis/US/paper-audits/History-of-Election-Auditing-Development.pdf

Voters Have Reason to Worry

http://utahcountvotes.org/UT/UtahCountVotes-ThadHall-Response.pdf

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